UFO 'Secrets' To Be Revealed In September, Says National Atomic Testing Museum
In just a few weeks, some kind of UFO-related secrets will be revealed at a Smithsonian Institution affiliated museum.
That's the implied promise in the title of a special lecture coming up at the National Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas on Sept. 22.
The secrets haven't yet been revealed, but the players involved certainly present the potential for something intriguing to emerge from this one-night event that's part of the museum's ongoing Area 51 lecture series.
We looked at bringing in some people to talk about extraterrestrials and UFOs," said museum CEO and executive director Allan Palmer, a highly decorated former Air Force and Navy combat jet fighter.
"We wanted to concentrate on people who had personal stories and exposure to what they thought were real UFOs from the military side, because they might have just a little more credibility than your average Joe," Palmer told The Huffington Post.
Four of the participants had previous American military security clearances:
Ret. Army Col. John Alexander: Former military insider who created Advanced Theoretical Physics -- a group of top-level government officials and scientists brought together to study UFOs.
Ret. Air Force Col. Charles Halt: Former base commander of the RAF Bentwaters military base in England and vital eyewitness to the amazing UFO-related events at Rendlesham Forest in December 1980, where he believed the observed UFOs were extraterrestrial in origin.
Ret. Air Force Col. William Coleman: Former USAF bomber pilot, chief of Air Force public information and producer of NBC's "Project UFO" series.
Ret. Air Force Col. Robert Friend: Former director of the Air Force's Project Blue Book from 1958 to 1963.
The fifth guest at the museum's upcoming UFO lecture is former U.K. UFO desk officer Nick Pope.
What's going to be different about this one-time lecture compared to previous gatherings where military personnel have stepped forward to reveal details about personal UFO experiences?
"One of the things that is different is that you have high credibility vetted sources," Alexander told HuffPost. "What you're getting from this panel are people who have worked with the military, all of whom certainly agree that UFOs are real, and I think most of them would say it ought to be researched.
"Here, you're getting a small number [of participants], but high credibility people."
At the Sept. 22 lecture, Pope will speak of the similarities between how the U.K. and U.S. governments had similar UFO study groups and why both countries officially got out of the UFO business.
"In both instances, the bottom line was that we wanted Joe Sixpack off our backs. Strip out all the mistaken sightings of weather balloons and dump all the crazies, and we might just have something worth looking at," Pope told HuffPost in an e-mail.
"But you can't do that in a public UFO project, because it's a kook magnet," he said. "The trick is to highlight all the crazy stuff in the media, so the subject becomes a joke, pull the plug, then run the whole thing covertly. Now I'm not saying this is exactly what happened, but if an Air Force pilot sees something unusual and it's tracked on military radar, does anyone seriously think we wouldn't be interested?"
While none of the participants of the upcoming lecture have offered a preview of any UFO revelation, Pope promises to disclose "some hitherto unrevealed secrets of the British government's UFO project."
This isn't the first time the Las Vegas museum has offered a provocative UFO presentation.
Back in March of this year, the Smithsonian venue opened its doors to an ongoing exhibit called "Area 51: Myth or Reality," providing a comprehensive look at the historic records of the most secret military installation in the country.
Among the many items displayed are materials presented as "Authentic Alien Artifact" -- samples of small objects originating from an alleged UFO crash in Russia.
"One of the things that is different is that you have high credibility vetted sources," Alexander told HuffPost.
oh no we don't, no need to talk about the POPE but what about Ret. Air Force Col. William Coleman: Former USAF bomber pilot, chief of Air Force public information and producer of NBC's "Project UFO" series. lets have a quick look at this man.
Bill Coleman, the retired Air Force colonel and former Project Blue Book mouthpiece, insists he’s got a “blockbuster” up his sleeve. “I’m 89. I won’t be around much longer,” Coleman says from his home in Indian Harbour Beach. He says he’s resisted multiple third-party efforts to pry it out of him before said date.
Coleman, who once chased a daylight disc in the summer of 1955, only to discover his report had unaccountably vanished from the Blue Book archives, co-produced the “Project UFO” series for NBC in 1978-79. Until several years ago, he was working on a related memoir, but was unable to finish it. But he shared his story with Merv Griffin in the Seventies, as well as on the nationally-televised “UFO Coverup Live” in 1988.
Coleman should fit right in at the Atomic Testing Museum, dedicated to showcasing artifacts from one of the most extraordinarily weird epochs in American history. In the spring of 1955, he volunteered for eyewitness duty at the Nevada Test Site, and he’s lucky to be alive. Get a load of this account, and the twist at the end:
The World War II veteran and 36 military colleagues have settled into 4.5-foot deep trenches bordering the shot tower, maybe 3,000 yards from ground zero, to watch the latest edition of a 14-part nuclear bomb series called Operation Teapot. Actually, they’re not watching it at all; their backs are facing the bomb. Coleman has his head swaddled in blankets. At t-minus 13 seconds on the countdown clock, the wind takes an abrupt shift and blows directly toward the trenches. But it’s too late for ignition abort.
When the bomb goes off (Coleman says he was told the yield was more than 50 kilotons, or nearly three Hiroshimas), he can detect its light through the fabric. Easing up for a peek, he and his trenchmates see an anthropomorphic dummy fixed to a post behind them is ablaze. The needle on the scintillator is pegging into the red, making the zone so hot the command center refuses to send trucks. “I said, ‘Let’s get the hell out of here,’” Coleman recalls, but another officer says no, they’d be getting dusted by fallout the whole march back. So they wind up trekking toward ground zero instead, through the burning “doom town” structures and the blasted armor, including an upside-down heavy tank flung 200 feet from its original anchor. “We were trapped there for four hours,” says Coleman, who came to within 1,200 yards of the fireball’s spread. “I never really quite got over it.”
Coleman hit the decontamination scrub-down twice before he was allowed to leave quarantine. Within three years, he was diagnosed with leukemia. “I asked the doctor how bad it was,” Coleman recalls. “He said ‘Buy as much insurance as you can.’ He gave me four months to live.”
As a last resort, Coleman consulted a family physician, who prescribed two quarts of “some kind of tonic,” he says. Coleman says he never found out the ingredients, but it was a red liquid that tasted awful. “I have no idea what happened,” he says. “But suddenly, the leukemia went away. I’ve got to blame it on the Lord.” So far as Coleman knows, he’s the sole surviving witness from the trench. “All those other guys,” he says, “are dead.”
I am betting that nothing new Coleman can offer about UFOs will match a miracle cure for cancer, I am getting wary of ex-military who are supposed to have credibility appearing at these events and claiming new evidence which never materialises, and why are they not being charged with breaking the official secrets act, and how come they are mostly colonels.
Although the Atomic Testing Museum is affiliated with the Smithsonian, it isn’t a subsidiary, the Museum in Las Vegas routinely displays loaned material from the Smithsonian, so I think the use of the Smithsonian name is a gimmick to attract paying customers and give an air of credibility to this event.
meldrew, to answer the question, "... why are they not being charged with breaking the official secrets act,...", is that, in so much as the U.S. is concerened, ALL exposure in any form or format from any exmilitary personal IS cleared through either a military or civilian agency, ie, NSA, CIA, etc., that approves the released information. All military and civillian government employees are REQUIRED to take an oath to the effect that anything they see, hear or do while on the job site will never be disclosed for any reason without the expressed conset of the U.S. Government, to which I can attest as I have been in government employment in the capacity as both military and as a civilian. As such, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that any and all information regarding the UFO phenomenon that is released by any exmilitary or civilian government employee is first cleared through a government agency, and therefore that person IS a plant. Are these people believable? Absolutely. In my professional opinion, this the U.S. Governments methodto for admitting what we all know or suspect while still being able to deny the exsistance of the UFO phenomenon.
meldrew, to answer the question, "... why are they not being charged with breaking the official secrets act,...", is that, in so much as the U.S. is concerened, ALL exposure in any form or format from any exmilitary personal IS cleared through either a military or civilian agency, ie, NSA, CIA, etc., that approves the released information. All military and civillian government employees are REQUIRED to take an oath to the effect that anything they see, hear or do while on the job site will never be disclosed for any reason without the expressed conset of the U.S. Government, to which I can attest as I have been in government employment in the capacity as both military and as a civilian. As such, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that any and all information regarding the UFO phenomenon that is released by any exmilitary or civilian government employee is first cleared through a government agency, and therefore that person IS a plant. Are these people believable? Absolutely. In my professional opinion, this the U.S. Governments methodto for admitting what we all know or suspect while still being able to deny the exsistance of the UFO phenomenon.
sorry but that makes no sense and does not answer the question, if you sign the official secrets act then you are NOT allowed to blab, full stop, but these colonels are allowed, why is that and why have they not been prosecuted for blabbing and breaking the law, to my knowledge only spies have ever been prosecuted, so what is the deal.
meldrew, it does make sense. As I wrote above,"...any and all information regarding the UFO phenomenon that is released by any exmilitary or civilian government employee is first cleared through a government agency, and therefore that person IS a plant.". These ex military/government employees are being told what they may disclose and to disclose nothing else. Using myself as an example, as being exmilitary and an excivilian government employe, I was privy to massive amounts of classified information, and although some of that information has been de-classified I still will not discuss any of the de-classified information as I have not been cleared to do so. Now, withthat being written, this can now be turned to the subject of"death bed confessions". These people refused to disclose anything until they knew they would be dead in a matter of a few hours, and felt compelled to set the record straight as per the UFOphenomenon, and these confessions are also believable. Hopefully this will help you see things in a different perspective.
lol that reads like a kiddy in class ;D well I knew what ron was saying too, I said it doesn't make sense, it doesn't add up that no whistle blowers have been prosecuted, so according to ron all whistle blowers are part of government mouth pieces, all of them, anyways this is something I've been looking into lately, and welcome the chance to get something going on this subject.
maybe I'm a bit gullible but out of all the whistle blowers, I worked on the premise that a few may be authentic, but to say none are is a big call and worthy of an internet headline, but we need some proof to go with a statement like that.
maybe I'm a bit gullible but out of all the whistle blowers, I worked on the premise that a few may be authentic, but to say none are is a big call and worthy of an internet headline, but we need some proof to go with a statement like that.
You're correct meldrew. It is a big call. But the thing is, what I am writing is coming from experience and knowledge.
we have to stop talking about this subject, before we get a knock on the door
LOL!! I have had that thought on more than one occasion! I'm wondering if anything new will come out or will it just be the same old rehashing of cases we already know and have been beat to death.
guess what, absolutely nothing has been revealed that will grab you by the proverbials, with the Pope even apologising to the audience for the panel not revealing "the smoking gun" they were expecting.
this event clashed with the BUFORA annual conference in London, where Jenny Randles gave a video linked presentation about solved cases, no mention of the Trislander case though.
guess what, absolutely nothing has been revealed that will grab you by the proverbials, with the Pope even apologising to the audience for the panel not revealing "the smoking gun" they were expecting.
this event clashed with the BUFORA annual conference in London, where Jenny Randles gave a video linked presentation about solved cases, no mention of the Trislander case though.
guess what, absolutely nothing has been revealed that will grab you by the proverbials, with the Pope even apologising to the audience for the panel not revealing "the smoking gun" they were expecting.
this event clashed with the BUFORA annual conference in London, where Jenny Randles gave a video linked presentation about solved cases, no mention of the Trislander case though.
Nothing new there then eh? I didnt expect anything to come from this
Quote from Col Holt. Halt added that he's never been harassed over the reports he made about the Bentwaters UFO incidents.
"Probably for a couple of good reasons. Number one, my rank and some of the jobs I've held, but also very early on, I sat down and made a very detailed tape and made several copies of everything I know about it and they're secluded away. Maybe I'm paranoid. I don't know, but I think it was time well spent when I made the tapes."
So, if a whistleblower has an insurance policy, in Holts case a detailed tape secluded away the authorities don't harass you. that answers my question as to why they arn't prosecuted
Laurance: Just seen one guy post chinese lanterns in Romanania making claims there are lightships and cannot be Chinese Lanterns because that is a Chinese habit
Jun 18, 2013 19:47:35 GMT 1
Laurance: Saw another video making claims about UFOs over Lugh Neagh in NI
Jun 18, 2013 19:47:51 GMT 1
Laurance: funny, looks just like aircraft arriving at Belfast international airport
Jun 18, 2013 19:48:05 GMT 1
uforn: its been like this for a while now, there hasn't been a decent sighting for a good few years
Jun 18, 2013 19:49:25 GMT 1
Laurance: Yep and yet the number of gullible people are on the rise
Jun 18, 2013 19:52:25 GMT 1
Laurance: people look up for the first time, see something in the sky and go 'oh look, ET, must report it'
Jun 18, 2013 19:52:45 GMT 1
uforn: yeah and its all lights in the sky, not many reports of solid crafts
Jun 18, 2013 19:53:43 GMT 1
uforn: where did the flying saucers go ?
Jun 18, 2013 19:54:13 GMT 1
Laurance: They are still reported but are buried under all the crap
Jun 18, 2013 19:55:15 GMT 1
uforn: we are due for a major sighting something like the phoenix lights would do
Jun 18, 2013 19:56:46 GMT 1
